Sunday, August 24, 2008

RE: [revival-fire] Some thoughts

******* REVIVAL FIRE!!! *******    

Hello Again,

I just realized that perhaps I need to clarify that I am American.  One of my home churches is FCC in Orangevale.  Just so no one thinks I am a non-American bashing American Christians.  I am an American Christian who is trying to challenge all of us regarding our thinking.

 

Blessings,

Tom

 


From: bounce-3267052-3038949@hub.xc.org [mailto:bounce-3267052-3038949@hub.xc.org] On Behalf Of Tom Moore
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 3:56 PM
To: A forum for Revival Discussion and Posts
Subject: [revival-fire] Some thoughts

 

******* REVIVAL FIRE!!! ******* 
 

 

Hello from Berlin, Germany!

I just remembered something a former pastor of mine used to say a lot, “Remember that when you point your finger at someone there are always three pointing back at you!”

 

It is interesting how people ‘point fingers’ at others in the church.  It is interesting how many people are waiting to say “I told you so” when it comes to the character or background of someone whom God is using.  Some people in the church are as bad as the tabloids and entertainment news programs that are always looking to see how different celebrities are messing up.

 

In the church it is interesting to see that God still uses people who did not fit into what we think is perfect.  Lest we forget, none of us are perfect.  None of us have perfect backgrounds.  None of us have perfect theology.  None of us have perfect understanding of the nature, character and ways of God.  None of us is perfect in spiritual discernment.  We all make mistakes.  I know I am definitely not perfect and I have a lot to learn.  I have things that need to be corrected regarding “stinking thinking”, wrong attitudes and behavior.

 

It is interesting that no one comes out and says, vocally or in print, they are pointing their fingers at God about His using someone that they do not see as perfect enough.  Does anyone want to admit that they have rebuked God with an “I told you so?”

 

Do we bother asking God why does He use certain people that we do not think are good enough?

 

Do we bother asking God what is He trying to reveal to us about His nature, character and ways through whom He uses?  Do we bother asking God what He is trying to reveal to us through the different expressions of worship, preaching, prayer, intercession, manifestations, healings, etc. that happen at various locations around the globe?

 

Or are we just looking to defend our theology and our ministries?  Are we looking to criticize others to make ourselves look better in our own eyes and in the eyes of others?  Is our security in what we know and in our personal ministries?

 

How big is God?  How much more of Himself does He want to reveal to us?  Are we looking to see how much more we can learn and get from God?

 

I have heard different teachings about healing.  One person can teach one reason why people do not get healed and what is the solution for getting healing.  Then you can have who knows how many other teachings that are slightly different or even completely different.  Some of them we will see as being “normal” people and others we may see as strange, quirky, eccentric, etc.  A funny thing is – God may use all of them for bringing about genuine healings.  Why does God choose to do that?

 

We are to love and seek Him with our hearts, souls and minds.  We should not get so much into seeking knowledge about God and theology that we become cynical.  Our seeking of knowledge about God should increase our expectation.  It should increase our belief that God can do so much more and wants us to be a part of it.  We should always be asking God why He does certain things and what is He trying to reveal through what He does and whom He uses.

 

I have been serving with Youth With A Mission (YWAM) for 10 ½ years now.  I was first in Cape Town, South Africa, for 8 ½ years before God called me to Germany and Berlin.  I have met and worked with people from many different nations, denominational backgrounds, economic backgrounds and political backgrounds.  I have learned more about God because I have listened to what others share about their understanding of God, seen how they worship, listened to how they pray and seen how they do ministry.  

 

God is bigger than how we understand Him in the United States, the United Kingdom and the rest of the western world.  If God starts moving powerfully with salvations and miracles here in Berlin will you be open to come see for yourself and learn more about Him?  What if the same happens in Nairobi, Kenya; Mumbai, India; Riga, Latvia; Antananarivo, Madagascar; Fortaleza, Brazil; Shanghai, China; etc.?  No, you do not have to go to different places, but some times God may want to show you something and impart something to you.  Yes, you should always be praying that God will bring those same revelations and demonstrations and more to where you are at.

 

God is bigger than we think.  God’s ways are not our ways.  Let us go and be open for Him to do things we do not understand and to use different people.  He may surprise us with what He shows us.

 

Blessings,

Tom Moore

 

--- 
Thankyou for contributing to Revival-Fire! 
You are currently subscribed to revival-fire as: [tommoore4nations@gmail.com]  
HOW TO JOIN:   
Send an e-mail to: 
revival.fire_admn@yahoo.com 
Subject: subscribe revival-fire,  yourusername@yourdomain 
 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, send the following message  
to: eric@riverlife.net  
subject: unsubscribe revival-fire, yourusername@yourdomain  
Enter the following line in the main text body  
unsubscribe revival-fire, yourusername@yourdomain  
 
Comments? Questions? Contact the following: 
Revival Fire Site Overseer/Supervisor: Pastor Rich Oliver, Family Christian Center 
e-mail: riverrgo@msn.com 
Technical and Admin oversight: Eric Leach 
e-mail: revival.fire_admn@yahoo.com 
 
TO POST MESSAGES TO REVIVAL FIRE: 
Send your message as an e-mail 
TO: revival-fire@hub.xc.org 
Subject: (insert your message subect) 
 
REMEMBER!!! If you hit "Reply" to a message received, it will only go to the 
original poster, not everyone on the list. If you want your response to go to 
all members, make sure the "TO:" address is revival-fire@hub.xc.org 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

---  Thankyou for contributing to Revival-Fire!  You are currently subscribed to revival-fire as: [revivalfirenetwork@gmail.com]   HOW TO JOIN:    Send an e-mail to:  revival.fire_admn@yahoo.com  Subject: subscribe revival-fire,  yourusername@yourdomain    To UNSUBSCRIBE, send the following message   to: eric@riverlife.net   subject: unsubscribe revival-fire, yourusername@yourdomain   Enter the following line in the main text body   unsubscribe revival-fire, yourusername@yourdomain     Comments? Questions? Contact the following:  Revival Fire Site Overseer/Supervisor: Pastor Rich Oliver, Family Christian Center  e-mail: riverrgo@msn.com  Technical and Admin oversight: Eric Leach  e-mail: revival.fire_admn@yahoo.com    TO POST MESSAGES TO REVIVAL FIRE:  Send your message as an e-mail  TO: revival-fire@hub.xc.org  Subject: (insert your message subect)    REMEMBER!!! If you hit "Reply" to a message received, it will only go to the  original poster, not everyone on the list. If you want your response to go to  all members, make sure the "TO:" address is revival-fire@hub.xc.org  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

No comments: