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Further on just one thing I wanted to mention related to your comment on Like Carlos Annacondia, from Argentina preaching in San Francisco recently declared that the Anointing is the weapon against the devil for doing good and healing all that are oppressed of the devil.
My contention is that it does not matter how much anointing one has received if we do not use it there is no possibility of revival.
Bless
JC
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With all due respect David, I believe that America just as every country need much more than a lift. Revival is not a lift, revival is, how to put it... well... revival. The church cannot do anymore with some patches, we need revival, restoration, transformation, a radical move of God the Holy Spirit.
I do not want to disagree with you but if I want to be honest I have to say that the moment we start saying "we've got it" is the moment we start losing it. I lived in the USA many years and for several years now I have been living in Wales, and I would say that compared to what we read in the Bible regarding our commissioning everything we do falls quite short of the goal.
Some would argue that we cannot compare because in the Bible it was the Apostles, and they had the advantage of having been with Jesus. To those who argue in such way I would ask: You mean you have never been with Jesus? My Bible says that we are to grow from Glory into Glory and the day after today should bring more glory than today and the days before. And the Glory of these last days should be more than the glory of the apostolic age.
I want a revival that hits the foundations of society. The closest of them from a historic point of view has been the Welsh revival of 1904 and in present days I would say that Argentina has come somewhat close although I think not yet in then extent of the Welsh 1904.
I see however some places, ministries, churches that are already moving in a strong desire and anointing that will lead into full revival. But unfortunately so far they are the few. However if the path is trodden and the goal pursued it will bloom into an unstoppable river.
Blessed!
JC
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Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 5:26 PM
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JC had written
One thing to learn from the Argentine revival is that revival is not about meetings, but much rather about bringing the Holy Spirit into the streets, to touch the lives of people outside the church. A friend of us pastors a church with a membership of well over 30,000 people, and leaving aside the impressive figure, what is more impressive is how the church is so inserted in the community that you find it almost everywhere. They have permanent teams in hospitals, prisons; they have social services, medical services, helping hands all over; but is not just social welfare, for every single person involved in the multiple venues of outreach are filled with the Spirit and daily spreading the life of Jesus everywhere. They have an "army' of children that regularly visit hospitals to pray for the sick and have seen awesome miracles, so much that they waited for, asked for, hospitals know them and people even when they know that they might be hospitalized send someone to ask those children to come pray for them!
JC with all due respect I think we understand what you are saying about revival
but America has all this in place already. I have been to many of these places that care for the downtrodden, orphaned children. In fact I saw the very first blind eye open in one of these shelters. We have people regularly going into hospitals, prisons, on the streets, there are ministries all over that shelter women and men that are serious about recovery.
Like Carlos Annacondia, from Argentina preaching in San Francisco recently declared that the Anointing is the weapon against the devil for doing good and healing all that are oppressed of the devil.
Like Smith Wiggelsworth once said what we need is Enduring ministries and ministers built on solid Holy Spirit Anointing and not just giftings, Holy People, Flames of Fire filled with and controlled by the Holy Spirit living in the prepared place.
An outpouring of the Ghost! And a people prepared to RUN with it will bring that needed Lift to America!
Revival Cometh!
dd
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