Friday, October 10, 2008

RE: [revival-fire] Threats to the River

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Just the other day as I was reading Ecclesiastes my mind drifted back to a famous discussion we had here in Revival Fire quite a few years ago about the river “is over”; “it stopped”, “what happened it does not run any more?’ and other such expressions trying to address the question why the river seemed to have slowed down or even “felt” stopped.  It was quite an interesting discussion.

 

Reading Ecclesiastes 1:7 I found God was showing me what is the main reason why so many times the river seems to stop, or better said why revival starts flows for some time and then stops, as if it had been exhausted.  I that old times discussion I remember we said that the river of God is always there and if we do not see it any more or we do not hear its roaring anymore most probably it is because we might have wandered too far away from the river to see it of hear it, leave aside to bath in it.

 

Revival is a nurtured in the river of God, a move of God that takes its waters straight from the throne of God. While reading Ecclesiastes 1:7 that says “All the rivers run into the sea, yet the sea doth not overflow: unto the place from whence the rivers come, they return, to flow again.” It made me think and actually it put a red warning on my heart and spirit. The rivers flow and go to the sea and then they return to where they came from to flow again. We know the process, the river flows down the mountain, runs into the sea, water evaporates, brings rain and snow up in the mountain and the river gets full again.

 

Maybe revivals simply die when we stop giving back to God what came from Him?

 

Kathryn Kuhlman was serious about God’s glory and so she taught and prayed: We give you the glory, even for what you will do we now give you the glory.

 

The river of revival flows into our lives and brings blessing as it runs, but it must run into the nations as well because a revival that does not affect the society outside our walls stops short of being a true revival. Furthermost and most importantly the river of revival must go back to God. Then and only then revival will go on and on, renewing itself in the process.

 

Just my 1 cent. I am rushing today so I cannot write 2 cents.

 

Moving toward a move of God

 

 

J. Conrad Lampan

 

Revival Highway

Newport  - Wales

United Kingdom

Email: connect@revivalhighway.net

 

 

From: revival-fire@hub.xc.org [mailto:revival-fire@hub.xc.org] On Behalf Of Des Nelson
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 6:20 PM
To: A forum for Revival Discussion and Posts
Subject: [revival-fire] Threats to the River

 

******* REVIVAL FIRE!!! ******* 
 

 

My Friends,

 

I don't know about you but the river has ruined me for life forever...and I LOVE IT! But, I want the fresh flow to continue in my life, my family, and my church (FCC Orangevale Ca)!

 

There are many threats to stopping or clogging up that flow: pride, religous attitudes, sin, judgment etc.

 

The one that is overlooked the most by us river dwellers is one that we do not like to talk about...because it is on the intellectual side of life. That threat is ignorance.

 

To be a people of God we must pursue him with every ounce of our being. That means ALL our being. This inlcudes ourmind. Pastor Rich Oliver (FCC) recently spoke about the battlefield of the mind! Traditionally Pentecostal & Charismatic people has shunned scholarship...this is a mistake. We river people need river theologians (Martin Scott for example) who can help us stay away from ideas that are contrary to God and will stop or hinder the flow of the river.

 

By the way...ingnorance does not mean one is stupid. What it means is either the Christian is young or to lazy to research or work to understand the Word. Pastor Matt Oliver (FCC) has started a class on understanding the Bible, how to interpret and read the Bible. These type of classes keep us from becoming like the person James speaks of being tossed back and forth in the wind. (James 1)

 

The more I dive in the river...the more ingorance is revealed in my life along with other things I would rather not discuss. (Ha!) But, it pushes me to cry to the Lord "I want to understand and know you more!"

 

As river dwellers and swimmers let's emrbace Christ with all of our heart, soul, strength, and mind! Let us continue in our pursuit of the things of God and dive in! As you do...watch out for the trap of ingorance! Lets continue to strive and push in the river and what God is doing!

 

May you all be blessed and encouraged today and do not stop swimming!

 

More Lord!

 

Blessings,

 

CC (1LT) Des Nelson

 

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