[revival-fire] Re: [revival-fire] Fw: Re: [revival-fire] RE: Please read and consider joining me - Can of worms opened‏

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I know matt is not big on these big debating discussions, but im not going to sit back with something said against him like that, and ill do my best to not get arrogant or aggresive towards anyone. I dont know how well you know that, but ive known matt since i was 5, and he knew me before that. He constantly talks about how he is in no way bound by what is said on the news, and you dont have to personally see to it directly that something evil happens to be a terrorist. I dont see how supporting the abortion of babies isnt even the slightest terrorism. Im not saying every woman who gets an abortion is a terrorist, but that would go into another discussion id like to avoid. Matt is far from simply eliminating a abortion clinic. If every abortion clinic was closed, you couldnt talk to the women wanting to get an abortion, because they would find a metal coat hanger, go behind a dark alley and remove the baby (or something like that). And the big one about the devil possibly speaking through matt, that answer is written in Mark 3:13-27:
     23So Jesus called them and spoke to them in parables: "How can Satan drive out Satan? 24If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand. 26And if Satan opposes himself and is divided, he cannot stand; his end has come. 27In fact, no one can enter a strong man's house and carry off his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man. Then he can rob his house. 28I tell you the truth, all the sins and blasphemies of men will be forgiven them. 29But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin."

    Im going to abstain from going against your comment on FFC to avoid getting offensive, but i will say i am by far against it. by the way no one is perfect, not me, you, matt, or anyone. That is hopefully all i have to say.

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Yeong Vardanega <yeongvardanega@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

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Subject: Re: [revival-fire] RE: Please read and consider joining me - Can of worms opened‏ To: "matthew Oliver" <heartbeatyouth@msn.com> Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 4:43 PM Matt: How do you know the devil is not speaking through you? You call our next President a Terrorist? How do you know such a thing, because you listen to Fox news? Did God tell you? I am really shocked and sadly disappointed in your obvious lack of good Christain principles. Are you now going to start bombing abortion clinics? Christains were deceived with our last Presdient and the deception is continuing. What a sad state of affairs for Family Christain Center and its leadership. Very sad! Good luck.  John Vardanega --- On Thu, 10/9/08, matthew Oliver <heartbeatyouth@msn.com> wrote: From: matthew Oliver <heartbeatyouth@msn.com> Subject: [revival-fire] RE: Please read and consider joining me - Can of worms opened‏ To: "A forum for Revival Discussion and Posts" <revival-fire@hub.xc.org> Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 10:33 PM ******* REVIVAL FIRE!!! ******* WOW the can of worms has been open - and I am not looking forward to all of the email posts that are about to follow - and from one who helps oversee the Revival Fire postings, I ask that you all keep the posts focused on testimonies, what God is doing in the region. It is clear that the devil is using clever deception to decieve Gods people. The whole point of deception, is that one does not think that they are decieved. The fact that any Christian could be supporting a terrorist like Obama, just shows you the level of deception at which the enemy is suceeding. The problem with abortion is not the fact the people are not getting contraceptions like some think they should.  The problem is people taking responsability for their actions, or not taking responsability. I do not want my children growing up in an age where we encourage lack of responsability or that the government has all the answers.  I want my child growing up Biblicaly, and taking re sponsability for themselves and for those and the world around them. We all know, the last post about this was silly, silly in the sense that there are too many on this revival posting site that will send a barage towards them with responses. Let us remember we war not against flesh and blood We war against the spirit of this age a spirit which is decieving the minds of, now Christians, and a nation. Let us intercede - and then let us frustrate this evil spirit by BOLDLY standing for justice and righteousness.  Let us agitate the enemy by speaking with LOUD voices the promises of a mighty God! I am not waiting for McCain to be on the attack in some debate, I am going on the attack and I am making a statement to all those around me what a TRUE Christian should stand for. Warriors - it is time that we arise and unite, and pray, and then agitate the enemy. Sword drawn and pointing away from the body - Matthew Oliver   and don't talk to me about seperation of Church and state I am one who is for - GLOBAL DOMINATION! --- Thankyou for contributing to Revival-Fire! You are currently subscribed to revival-fire as: [yeongvardanega@sbcglobal.net] HOW TO JOIN: Send an e-mail to: revival.fire_admn@yahoo.com Subject: subscribe revival-fire, yourusername@yourdomain To UNSUBSCRIBE, send the following message to: eric@riverlife.net subject: unsubscribe revival-fire, yourusername@yourdomain Enter the following line in the main text body unsubscribe revival-fire, yourusername@yourdomain Comments? Questions? Contact the following: Revival Fire Site Overseer/Supervisor: Pastor Rich Oliver, Family Christian Center e-mail: riverrgo@msn.com Technical and Admin oversight: Eric Leach e-mail: revival.fire_admn@yahoo.com TO POST MESSAGES TO REVIVAL FIRE: Send your message as an e-mail TO: revival-fire@hub.xc.org Subject: (insert your message subect) REMEMBER!!! If you hit "Reply" to a message received, it will only go to the original poster, not everyone on the list. If you want your response to go to all members, make sure the "TO:" address is revival-fire@hub.xc.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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