Re: [revival-fire] prophetic word?

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yea thanks. I definately know God is bigger than any election. I wasnt trying to sound like there will be a big judgement or end of the world type of deal or even that it was for sure a prophetic dream (which is why i added the question mark). But there another angle i didnt mention, i also felt like this could be in general what will happen if we do not stand up for righteousness and let things go by, not specifically prop 8. I definitaley better put my faith in God for the election since i cant vote. But even though one vote doesnt mean much by itself, when other people join in as a family or an army (or a combo of both =]  ), they can do GREAT things. I fully agree with you paul, and thank you for your input. Blessings.

 

On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 12:09 AM, Paul Swearengin <paul@1430espn.com> wrote:

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I have read all the "end of the world is at hand" notes in regards to prop 8 and other elections coming up in November and I encourage everyone to vote the way God is leading your hearts.

 

But please let me encourage you on another point.  Don't lose heart if you lose an election.  God will STILL be God!  Stop with the slippery slopes, already.  If Prop 8 doesn't pass, maybe we will have to trust in God's power rather than our own political power for a while.  Please realize the Chinese Church has NO political power at all.  You can be arrested for being a Christian and for asking someone else to consider to be – yet thousands of Chinese people are coming into the Kingdom everyday – EVERY SINGLE DAY. Maybe, not being encumbered with the requirements needed to be so politically powerful has given the Chinese Church the freedom to go do the job they are really called to do – Advance the Kingdom.

 

If Prop 8 passes or doesn't, I will still send my children to school each day knowing it is MY job to train them up in the way they should go and beyond that, I have to trust Him to take care of my family.  If Prop 8 passes, my kids will STILL be exposed to drugs and sex and even homosexuality – no law will change that – and I will still have to trust God to guard their hearts and minds and carry them through to completion.

 

The Pharisees were sure, if they could get every Jew to follow the law, for even one second, the Messiah would come.  But just like Israel in that day, America's problem is NOT a legal problem, it's a heart problem.  No proposition will change that.  No proposition will bring one single soul into the Kingdom.  "If MY people will humble themselves (not start a powerful political action) and pray and seek my face and turn from THEIR wicked ways (not demand everyone else turn from theirs) then I will hear from heaven and heal their land…"  Have we not lost a little perspective here?

 

I will vote in favor of Prop 8, but I will not be led into the terror of what "might" happen if we lose, I will not be led to trust in our power more than God's and I will not become hard hearted against any people groups that we have chosen to fight "winner take all" legal battles against.  Our call is to love sinners, not to crush them under the weight of our Moral Majority power.

 

I'm sorry to lay all this out, but I am weary of the doomsday prophesies.  Even if God's judgment is on America (and I sure hope His grace doesn't run out for me like everyone is prophesying that His grace has run out for California) then I rest in the assurance that every old testament judgment was God's MERCIFUL call to them.  Not His desire to destroy them.  He is a good God who has a Jeremiah 29:11 plan for me and my community - that is for Hope and a Future…

 

If they tell me I have to marry homosexuals or lose my tax exempt status?  Well then I'm REALLY going to have to get humble and pray for an outpouring of God's mercy, and that call would go out to a good God…

 

I appreciate your heart.  Please hear my words in great love for what you are doing here.  Just let me say "give to Caesar what is Caesar's" but don't give to Caesar what is God's.  Be free to NOT feel pressured to worry about this election.  I have a heavily vested interest in the outcome of an election in Fresno, as some of you may know, but I tell you right now, if the outcome of that race is not what I desire, God will STILL be God and His plan will NOT be thwarted.  Yet will I cry out for Him to move in the Valley as He has promised.

 

Please, be at peace, November 4 is NOT the end of the world.  It is a call to the church to Advance the Kingdom, not work harder for a political party or build a better political action committee…

 

I love what you guys are chasing on here – don't be so distracted – RUN, HE IS GREATLY ON THE MOVE!!! God's Holy Spirit will change California, not new laws…

 

 

With great love for the body, particularly those chasing the new wine,

 

Paul Swearengin

 

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From: revival-fire@hub.xc.org [mailto:revival-fire@hub.xc.org] On Behalf Of Michael Williams
Sent: October 31, 2008 10:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [revival-fire] prophetic word?

 

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what struck me is that on wednesday matt had been talking about how churches could be sued, closed, and the like for not wedding homosexual people if prop 8 doesnt pass. Thats what hit me the most about it, presonally. And please do not go over the top with replies (you know what i mean).

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